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Readers Respond to St. Clair Shores Not Pursuing Rat Bounty Program

Mayor Kip Walby announced Monday that the city would not pursue the controversial rat bounty program, but will still continue efforts to address the rodent issue in St. Clair Shores.

 

St. Clair Shores will continue to address the rodent program in the city, but without the rat bounty program.

Mayor Kip Walby made the announcement during Monday's meeting that the city will not proceed the proposed $5 per rat program.

"We are not going to do it," said Walby, who did acknowledge the city received negative press since it was first proposed. "We did try to put it out there ... we know there is a rodent issue."

In the days following the announcement, the story was covered by a number of media outlets including Patch, The Drudge Report, WJBK-TV, Detroit Free Press, WJR-Radio and the San Francisco Chronicle.

"We are concerned about our employees handling the rodents, but we are also concerned about getting rid of (the rodents) and having St. Clair Shores not a place where rodents live," Walby added. 

Instead, the city will continue investigating using a cart-system with a 96- or 64-gallon trash cans along with continuing resident education efforts along with investigating and targeting neighborhoods.

City officials will also meet Thursday with the Department of Agriculture personnel, along with Eastpointe and Roseville officials, about pesticides and rodents control efforts.

"The goal here all along on that portion of the program was to help us identify areas of concern," said acting city manager Mike Smith. "What this has done has gotten people involved and contacting us."

Smith added that the among the efforts to educate the public include letting residents know that they can't leave dog waste in the backyard, not to leave plastic garbage bags in the yard and not to leave wood piled on the ground.

"People aren't doing this on purpose," Smith said.

Regional rodent problem

While residents in St. Clair Shores are concerned about rodents, the city is not alone in dealing with rats.

Ken Osborne, district manager for Rose Pest Solutions, has responded to calls in Grosse Pointe Farms and Shores, Roseville, Warren and Clinton Township.

"I think the rat population in general has been growing over the past five to 10 years," said Osborne, who attributes residents leaving food and water sources out to additional sewer for the increase in population. "It is a community effort to do what every the can do to eliminate being attractive to rodents."

Reader comments on the St. Clair Shores Facebook page:

  • Linda Meike-Archibald: The radio stations were talking all about SCS rat bounty program. It made our city seem awful.
  • Rachel Harrida Koos: Let's just try to get these garbage cans quickly!! The rat bounty would have done nothing to stop them.
  • Gerald Donnelly: In Florida they can hunt pythons. Why can't we hunt rats.
  • Deanna Denby Silverthorn: My friend who lives in Florida heard about the St. Clair Shores rat infestation in her local paper and on the news...it's national news!! Something's got to be done! I'm all for the new garbage cans and having my yard inspected and baited!
  • Renee Satrun Ansell: I don't care what people think, as long as long as the rats leave!!!!
  • Liz Forlini: Rat in bag didn't go over to well!
  • Kim Rhoton I swear I thought this was a joke headline from "the Onion"
  • Erin Beshke: I don't need $5 to kill a rat by my house. If I knew I had them I'd put out my own rat poison!
  • John Brucia: Rat poison kills other animals, like dogs and squirrels
  • Brian Carrick: Can't plink 'em with Airsoft, BBs or .177 pellets.
  • Brooke Bauer: Have they considered a pied piper? I had not really heard of the SCS "rat attack" but sounds icky!
  • Stacy Andiaris: I'm all for the pellet, bb gun idea!! I need to work on my aim anyways.
  • Jill Spurlin Mostek: Glad the bounty idea was canned.
  • Candice B. Rusie: I think we'll be investigating other proposals as well. I discussed a few ideas with the mayor today before the meeting I'm going to collect some details on. We definitely need a multi-pronged approach, and I think we'll be developing a few more prongs along the way.
  • Amanda Livingston-Stephenson: It would be nice to get the big green waste management garbage cans!
  • Anthony Caleca: If people would just take care of their yards, remove brush piles, pick up after their dogs, eliminate sources of water, place the garbage is a good can, and stop leaving food out for the birds maybe along with baiting we can get rid of the rats
  • Jayne Urbas Jones: Good call Anthony, common sense solutions, plus get a city wide inspection, the proper garbage cans, and the bait in secure containers. This would all help tremendously.
  • Jayne Urbas Jones: I did the contained bait in the summer, but if you don't get surrounding neighbors on board it's not gonna work!
  • Jennifer Schmidt Mancuso: True story, this past summer I literally watched a possum walk across patio (about 2 ft from me), he goes under our BBQ with his creepy head peeking out then goes to the bush. I see the bush moving and the thing struts out with a rat in mouth. I'm frozen cause I didn't realize he was hunting this rat then he takes it under BBQ and I hear it actually eating the rat! So gross!

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Related Topics: Rats, Rose Pest Solution, rat bounty, and rodents

Susan

10:10 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

We have two bait boxes from the city (one in front yard and one in back yard) and I still see rat(s?) walking up and down our driveway. Remember rats are resilient or they wouldn't have survived this long (along with cockaroaches). Picking up poop, getting wood off the ground and eliminating/minimizing compost piles may help a little, but if the rats are there they BREED prolifically. When rats are killed in off in one area do you think they stick around? I'm open for suggestions...

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concerned resident

10:13 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

I have lived in my home for 26 years I have never seen anything like the rat infestation that we have in the city.We have a pool and keep our yard up. I am afraid to sit on my deck. The rats dig under everything, I can see where they are tunneling under my neighbors driveway. We have baited, trapped, and filled in with dirt, rocks, and bricks. They are everywhere. I have called the city numerous times. The answer I got was that for $10.00 I could rent a trap from them. My question is once I get one in the trap then what do I do with it? We have caught 6 in the past few months. I have paid for my dog to get vaccination and for traps and bait. We need solutions. Not talk........St Clair Shores and their rat problem is National news. That's what we want to be known for.

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Debbie Lipski Cottrell

10:39 am on Thursday, February 7, 2013

Let us not forget to talk about the largest cause of the areas (shores, roseville, pointes, etc) rat infestation......MDOT doing 3 major projects at the I-94 & I-696 interchange and disturbing the rodents homes (sewers) and making them vacate their homes without providing an extensive baiting service in and around of the construction prior to the start of the projects! Why are we not talking to MDOT and holding them accountable?

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D

6:23 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

I have lived in this area for 23yrs. The last few years have been the worse. I have them as well. I had to quit feeding the birds, but still have issues. We have probably killed at least 10. I will say the traps do not bait traps do not work. I have to put the lids on the cans inside the garage. I know they are still around. Might have to resort to the glue traps!

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old scs resident

6:26 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

rats have been in saint clair shores as long as i can remember ,i was born in 1960 my parents bought their house in 1955 and spoke of rats back then . the old sledding hill behind prinston school was tore down because of it being infeasted with rats sometime in the 70's .this is not a new problem i think its just been over looked way to long

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Tami

8:13 pm on Thursday, February 7, 2013

This infestation is a newer problem. My family has lived in SCS since 1975 and has never had a problem like the last few years. I seriously had never even seen a rat in person until this past summer. This is not an old ongoing problem.

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laura urka

2:19 pm on Friday, February 8, 2013

Look up "Cobra Effect". This type of "bounty" has already been tried in Ft Benning Georgia - only with wild pigs instead of rats. Folks started to breed the pigs to make money! Think how quickly rats multiply! The city has already suffered the negative effects of putting the rat problem in the news. What a relief to know the city won't be going broke as well. There has to be a better solution.

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Erin Stahl

8:14 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

I've heard of bait that contains something similar to "the pill". It sterilizes the rats to stop them from breeding. Anyone know where we can get this? Has anyone else heard of this?

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Erin Stahl

8:18 am on Saturday, February 9, 2013

Plus garbage bags vs cans does not equal rats. Drive around Grosse Pointe on trash day and very few people have trash cans. Most put out bags and the bags are undisturbed.

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Rick

12:22 am on Saturday, April 13, 2013

I have been snapping rats for a few years now in SCS. The large traditional snap traps work the best for me. Snapped over 20 last year and this year already in the teens. The problem is getting worse. One trick with the traps is to loop thin string on the bait tab and then mix peanut butter thru the small loops. The rat teeth get snagged on the string and it gets the rat every time. With this heavy rain, I snapped 5 in the last three days. I use metal cans and have removed everything the rats could be attracted to in my yard. I believe they just pass thru but my neighbors are not all helping with the issue. Dog waste is not picked up daily, bird feeders still out, wood piles on the ground and veggie gardens are still be grown in the summer. All that has to go until the infestation is gone. Wish everyone would get on the same page.

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